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AMBASSADOR HUNTSMAN: That's right. And not surprisingly, "in a country with 350 million Internet users and 60 million bloggers, do you know of the firewall?" And second, "should we be able to use Twitter freely" -- is the question.
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[洪博培代網(wǎng)民提問]第一，有這么多互聯(lián)網(wǎng)使用者的國家，有6000萬寫博客的人，你知道防火墻的事情嗎？第二，我們是不是應(yīng)該自由地使用TWITTER? |
| PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, first of all, let me say that I have never used Twitter. I noticed that young people -- they're very busy with all these electronics. My thumbs are too clumsy to type in things on the phone. But I am a big believer in technology and I'm a big believer in openness when it comes to the flow of information. I think that the more freely information flows, the stronger the society becomes, because then citizens of countries around the world can hold their own governments accountable. They can begin to think for themselves. That generates new ideas. It encourages creativity. |
[奧巴馬]首先讓我說，我從來沒有使用過TWITTER。我注意到一些年輕人，他們一直很忙，有各種各樣的電子器材，很笨重。但是我還是非常相信技術(shù)的作用，非常重視開放性。在信息流動(dòng)方面，我認(rèn)為越是能夠自由的信息流通，社會(huì)就變得越強(qiáng)，因?yàn)檫@樣子，世界各地的公民能讓自己的政府負(fù)責(zé)，有一個(gè)問責(zé)制度，他們自己會(huì)思考，這樣會(huì)有新的想法，鼓勵(lì)創(chuàng)造性。 |
| And so I've always been a strong supporter of open Internet use. I'm a big supporter of non-censorship. This is part of the tradition of the United States that I discussed before, and I recognize that different countries have different traditions. I can tell you that in the United States, the fact that we have free Internet -- or unrestricted Internet access is a source of strength, and I think should be encouraged. |
所以我一直是堅(jiān)定地支持互聯(lián)網(wǎng)開放的使用，我是非常支持不審查內(nèi)容的。在美國我過去談過，這是我們的一個(gè)傳統(tǒng)，我也認(rèn)識(shí)到不同的國家有不同的傳統(tǒng)，但是我可以告訴各位，在美國，我們有沒有受限制的使用互聯(lián)網(wǎng)的機(jī)會(huì)，這是我們力量的來源，也是應(yīng)該受到鼓勵(lì)的。 |
| Now, I should tell you, I should be honest, as President of the United States, there are times where I wish information didn't flow so freely because then I wouldn't have to listen to people criticizing me all the time. I think people naturally are -- when they're in positions of power sometimes thinks, oh, how could that person say that about me, or that's irresponsible, or -- but the truth is that because in the United States information is free, and I have a lot of critics in the United States who can say all kinds of things about me, I actually think that that makes our democracy stronger and it makes me a better leader because it forces me to hear opinions that I don't want to hear. It forces me to examine what I'm doing on a day-to-day basis to see, am I really doing the very best that I could be doing for the people of the United States. |
但是我也應(yīng)該很誠實(shí)地告訴各位，作為美國總統(tǒng)，有的時(shí)候我還是希望信息不是那么自由地流通，因?yàn)檫@樣我就不需要聽到人們?cè)谂u(píng)我，我認(rèn)為這是很自然的。在人處于一定實(shí)力地位的時(shí)候就會(huì)想到，你為什么這樣說我，你這樣說是很不負(fù)責(zé)的?？墒钦鎸?shí)的情況是這樣，因?yàn)樵诿绹畔⑹亲杂傻?，因?yàn)樵诿绹泻芏嗳伺u(píng)我，說各種各樣的事情。但我還是認(rèn)為，這樣才會(huì)使得我們的民主制度變得更強(qiáng)，使我變成一個(gè)更好的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人，因?yàn)樗仁刮衣牭揭恍┪也辉敢饴牭降囊庖?，也迫使我審查我正在做的事情，每天都要審查，要看我是不是真的為美國人民做我能做的最好的事情?/span> |
| And I think the Internet has become an even more powerful tool for that kind of citizen participation. In fact, one of the reasons that I won the presidency was because we were able to mobilize young people like yourself to get involved through the Internet. Initially, nobody thought we could win because we didn't have necessarily the most wealthy supporters; we didn't have the most powerful political brokers. But through the Internet, people became excited about our campaign and they started to organize and meet and set up campaign activities and events and rallies. And it really ended up creating the kind of bottom-up movement that allowed us to do very well. |
所以我認(rèn)為互聯(lián)網(wǎng)現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)變成一個(gè)更強(qiáng)的工具，可以讓公民來參與。實(shí)際上，我這次勝選，當(dāng)了總統(tǒng)的原因之一是我們能夠動(dòng)員很多年輕人，通過互聯(lián)網(wǎng)來動(dòng)員。剛開始的時(shí)候，沒有人會(huì)想到我會(huì)贏，因?yàn)槲覀儧]有得到最富裕的人、政治上最有權(quán)利的人支持我們，可是人們通過互聯(lián)網(wǎng)看到我們競(jìng)選，他們開始感到很興奮，他們就組織起來成立一些競(jìng)選的活動(dòng)、事件和集會(huì)，結(jié)果就產(chǎn)生了這些從下往上的一種行動(dòng)，使我們很成功。 |
| Now, that's not just true in -- for government and politics. It's also true for business. You think about a company like Google that only 20 years ago was -- less than 20 years ago was the idea of a couple of people not much older than you. It was a science project. And suddenly because of the Internet, they were able to create an industry that has revolutionized commerce all around the world. So if it had not been for the freedom and the openness that the Internet allows, Google wouldn't exist. |
這不僅在政府和政治，在企業(yè)界一樣。像Google這種公司，不到20年前，它只是兩個(gè)年齡跟你們差不多一樣的人創(chuàng)業(yè)，本來是科學(xué)的實(shí)驗(yàn)，后來因?yàn)榛ヂ?lián)網(wǎng)，他們能夠創(chuàng)造一個(gè)產(chǎn)業(yè)，這個(gè)產(chǎn)業(yè)使得全世界各地的商業(yè)發(fā)生一場(chǎng)革命。所以要不是有很自由的開放性，就像互聯(lián)網(wǎng)所提供的開放性，那Google不會(huì)存在。 |
| So I'm a big supporter of not restricting Internet use, Internet access, other information technologies like Twitter. The more open we are, the more we can communicate. And it also helps to draw the world together. |
所以我很支持一個(gè)做法，就是不要限制互聯(lián)網(wǎng)的使用、接觸或者像TWITTER這種信息技術(shù)，越開放越能夠溝通，使全世界聯(lián)系在一起。
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Think about -- when I think about my daughters, Malia and Sasha -- one is 11, one is 8 -- from their room, they can get on the Internet and they can travel to Shanghai. They can go anyplace in the world and they can learn about anything they want to learn about. And that's just an enormous power that they have. And that helps, I think, promote the kind of understanding that we talked about.
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像我的兩個(gè)女兒瑪麗亞和娜塔莎，一個(gè)是11歲，一個(gè)是8歲，在她們的房間可以上網(wǎng)，通過互聯(lián)網(wǎng)可以達(dá)到世界任何地方，可以學(xué)到她們想學(xué)的內(nèi)容，這是她們巨大的力量，她們擁有這種力量，也有利于促進(jìn)相互理解。 |
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Now, as I said before, there's always a downside to technology. It also means that terrorists are able to organize on the Internet in ways that they might not have been able to do before. Extremists can mobilize. And so there's some price that you pay for openness, there's no denying that. But I think that the good outweighs the bad so much that it's better to maintain that openness. And that's part of why I'm so glad that the Internet was part of this forum. Okay?
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就像我剛才所說的，技術(shù)也有負(fù)面?？植婪肿右部梢酝ㄟ^互聯(lián)網(wǎng)做一些以前他們做不到的事情，有一些極端分子也可以動(dòng)員。當(dāng)然開放性肯定要付出某種代價(jià)，這是不能否認(rèn)的?？墒俏蚁牒玫倪h(yuǎn)遠(yuǎn)多于壞的，所以保持開放還是好的，我很高興看到互聯(lián)網(wǎng)也作為這個(gè)論壇的一部分。 |
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I'm going to take two more questions. And the next one is from a gentleman, I think. Right here, yes. Here's the microphone.
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最后兩個(gè)問題。
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